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Cultivating Success: Elliot Phillips on Finding Opportunities

Unlocking Entrepreneurial Success: Insights with Elliot Phillips | The Science of Self Podcast

In this episode of The Science of Self podcast, host Russell welcomes Elliot Phillips, a former PE teacher turned successful entrepreneur, author, and business coach. Elliot shares his journey from teaching to launching his own business helping teachers build online tutoring enterprises. Elliot emphasizes the importance of self-improvement, surrounding oneself with high achievers, and staying disciplined with daily routines. They discuss the impact of mentorship, the value of investing in learning, and effective habits for success. This episode is packed with valuable advice and practical tips for anyone looking to elevate their personal and professional life.

00:00 The Power of Associations

00:55 Welcome to The Science of Self

01:01 Meet Elliot Phillips: Entrepreneur and Author

01:18 The Journey from Teaching to Entrepreneurship

02:48 The Importance of Self-Improvement and Masterminds

04:42 The Influence of Mentors and Books

08:19 Overcoming Discomfort for Success

15:37 Elliot's Early Entrepreneurial Ventures

23:42 The Teacher Project: Origins and Insights

24:46 The Teacher Fit Project: Origins and Challenges

26:23 Pivoting to Online Education During the Pandemic

27:11 The Importance of Delegation and Surrounding Yourself with the Right People

29:35 The Role of Luck and Readiness in Success

31:14 Book Recommendations and Their Impact

35:44 Influential People and Life Decisions

37:11 Cultural Reflections: Comparing Cities

42:59 Daily Habits and Final Advice

46:54 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Elliot Phillips:

the opposite's also true if you hang around with

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people who don't have high standards,

don't want to grow, don't want to

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learn, don't want to get better.

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That's ultimately the path that

you're gonna choose to take as well,

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you can have everything you

want in life if you will help

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enough people get what they want.

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That was the Zig Ziglar.

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Greatness is on the other side of all

the things that you don't want to do.

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It's those little habits and routines

that I think create a foundation

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where you don't doubt yourself and

you can always think positively

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about, you're always moving forwards.

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You've gotta keep working on yourself

so that when the opportunities do keep

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coming, at one point you'll, you'll be

ready to, to snatch it and grasp it.

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Russell Newton: Hello listeners, and

welcome back to The Science of Self, where

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you improve your life from the inside out.

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I'm glad today to welcome another guest to

the podcast Elliot Phillips, entrepreneur,

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author and teacher helper for if I

could coin a phrase myself, Elliot,

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tell us about yourself and we'll see

where the conversation goes from there.

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Elliot Phillips: sure.

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Thanks for, thanks for having

me first of all, Russell.

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So, yeah, my name's Elliot Phillips.

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I'm a former PE teacher from the UK

and since leaving teaching in:

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I launched a business where we help

teachers so classroom teachers, academic

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teachers, grow their own online tutoring

businesses so that we can transform

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the way that teachers educate the world

and help 'em build the, the future

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generations on their, their own terms.

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So you mentioned on the offer

got a best selling book, teaching

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on your own terms, and most of

our clientele is, is US based.

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we just came off the back of

the a big event that we held in

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Denver most recently, a couple

of weeks ago, in mid-June.

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And yeah, the, the business has grown

extremely well since, since COVID, and

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we're really passionate about helping

teachers, you know, become entrepreneurs.

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you know, them, you know, improve

how they think about things, how

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they think about business, and

ultimately impact more students.

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Russell Newton: I have a

background in teaching myself.

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I'm not sure how many of

our listeners, I don't.

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I talk about my background very much.

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I taught high school math and

science for 10 or 15 years.

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Certainly understand, and this was

in a private school, so a lot of

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the frustrations I had there would

be multiplied many times maybe by

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orders of magnitude for teachers in

large public school organizations.

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But Elliot, I'm gonna ask you to reassure

our listeners that this is not a podcast

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generated or designated just for teachers.

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As I said in our run up to the show

before we got online, the frustrations

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that have applied to a teacher

in an organization could apply to

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anybody in any business at any time.

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Do you agree with that?

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Elliot Phillips: Absolutely.

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You know, I'm, I'm a part of many,

like a few, a fair few different

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masterminds and so the, the mastermind

coaching programs that, that I'm in.

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Our connective business owners in

all different niches, all different

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industries, and it's a massive

part of, of the process, right?

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Is is self-improvement,

mental performance.

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It's, you know, I think Tony Robbins says,

right, it's not, it's 20% and psychology,

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And so, you know, the business owners

that, I'll speak to struggle with the

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same problems with their own clients.

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And know, I think it's the

foundation right of you.

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You've got to be a great mentor performer

before you can get the the actual

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end result that you want for sure.

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Russell Newton: Mastermind, you

said that as if it's an organization

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and it sounds like an organization

I should be familiar with.

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Tell us more about that.

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Elliot Phillips: I just

meant some coaching programs.

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I mean, so we'll generally just coin the

term, I guess, mastermind, where it's

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a collective of, you know, different

business owners at different, different

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points on their journey coming together

and we will do in-person meetups and

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so we'll just have the opportunity to

collaborate and share what's working well.

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Again, whether that is.

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Self, self-improvement routines,

business related growth strategies

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or whatever it might be.

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Just the coming together of, of

business owners in a room instead

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Elliot Phillips: just being on Zoom

all the time, which is kind of how,

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how we operate these days, right?

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And so it,

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Russell Newton: Right,

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Elliot Phillips: really does create

a bit of a shift when you get to see

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people in person and, and just being in

that, that environment with around other

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people who, who want to grow and do well.

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Russell Newton: absolutely.

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Is that searching my mind

here, but I'm not sure.

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Is that the same phrase that

Napoleon Hill used in Think and

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Grow Rich, the Mastermind group?

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He talked about having a, are you

familiar with the book, first of all?

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Elliot Phillips: I was just thinking

it's been, that was one of the first

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that I read, I think when I left

teaching back in It's been a while.

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So you, you, you could be correct.

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Yeah.

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Russell Newton: I'm not sure if that's

the phrase, but listeners, that haven't

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read or listened to a Napoleon Hills book.

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The concept is a group of, of basically

a board of directors internalized,

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and you put together a group of

people that you respect their opinions

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of and you ask advice from them.

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If you're not familiar with that,

check out Napoleon Hills book,

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think and Grow Rich Along with

others that he is written it.

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Elliot Phillips: say where you become

the average of the five people you

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spend most of your time with, right?

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Or you become a reflection of your

inner circle, so to speak, right?

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So the more people you, you can

surround yourself with that.

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And I think that's the essence

of the, the book, right?

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It's getting around or part of it,

around people who are also doing well,

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who want to grow, who want to win, and.

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Ultimately, you know,

rubs off, rubs off on you.

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Whereas the opposite's also true if you

hang around with people who don't have

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high standards, don't want to grow, don't

want to learn, don't want to get better.

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That's ultimately the path that you're

gonna choose to take as well, you know?

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Russell Newton: I believe it was Zig

Ziglar said, you are the person you're

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becoming, the person you will be in.

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This is a, a wrong quote, but in

five years except for the people

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you meet and the books you read.

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And of course our society has changed.

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Technology has changed that because

I can interact with a great number

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of people in a great number of ways.

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But the concept still applies.

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What we, the people we meet, the books

we read, the material we're exposed

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to determine who we're going to be.

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I like the con, the the.

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Elliot Phillips: zig zig zig la co.

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I like to read in the morning to myself.

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I'm

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Russell Newton: Oh, great.

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Elliot Phillips: I'm just

trying to load it up.

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Russell Newton: I.

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Elliot Phillips: I've got a few

different ones, but I've got a favorite.

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I, so.

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You're obviously clearly very rehearsed

in, you know, the, the self-development.

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'cause you've got all these Napoleon

Hills Ziglar, and I think that's

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really important, those little

principles that they've got.

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Just click in and just remind

you how to to operate here.

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Here, here's one.

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can have everything you want in life.

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If you help enough people

get what they want does.

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Russell Newton: I don't think

I've ever heard that one.

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Yeah, read that one again.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah, here we go.

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You, you can have everything you

want in life if you will help

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enough people get what they want.

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That was the Zig Ziglar.

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So I've got that on my little

list of principles I like to

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read each day in, in the Morning.

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Rowan's obviously a great one as as well.

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Yeah.

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Tony Robbins, biggest seat

key to success is hunger.

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You know, little things like this.

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Oh, here's, here's a great one.

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I love this one.

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Greatness is on the other side of all

the things that you don't want to do.

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Discipline buys you

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Russell Newton: very good.

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Elliot Phillips: what you want.

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Failures a requisite for success.

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All of these ones, you know I think

I've got a list about 48 here.

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And so just little things that I'll,

I'll touch on each, each day in, in the

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morning, like who you're saying about,

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Russell Newton: Those

are, those are great.

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On the other side of the things

you don't wanna do, I am currently

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narrating a book actually for this for

Peter Hollins, who is the source of

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the material on the science of self.

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I.

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I take that back.

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I'm working on some, some

YouTube videos on the book.

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And the book is entitled How to Do

Things You Hate getting through those

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things that you don't want to do, and

finding the motivation and the, the

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mindset to attack the things you don't

want to do, but that have to be done.

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Interesting how so many things are tailing

in in this short conversation so far

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Russell Newton: many other

conversations we've had.

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It's great.

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Elliot Phillips: Well, I think that's

what most, that, that's part of

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it, right, is most people can get

what they want, but we're just not,

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we're just wired to do what's easy.

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You know?

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It's so much easier just to do

what you know and keep doing

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that because yeah, it's, it's

easy and, and stuff that's hard.

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It's not enjoyable.

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I think ultimately it becomes

enjoyable becomes because you

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become better at it, right?

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And so the more times you do something

that's uncomfortable, eventually

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it becomes easy, you get good, and

then you just do it consistently.

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I think that's the same

with just so many things.

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Russell Newton: Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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The, the short term investment in

discomfort that pays off again, in orders

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of magnitude and long term comfort,

you have to get outta your comfort

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zone to accomplish anything really.

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I.

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Elliot Phillips: Whereas fitness related

stuff or what, whatever it might be, you

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know business related stuff, whether it's

just starting the business, whether it's

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calling your leads, whatever it might

be, whether it's making a podcast, I.

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You know, trying to get your first

house, what, what, whatever it

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is, going to the gym the first

time if you wanna lose weight.

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I remember I went to a, a yoga one time.

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This is a few, fair, few years ago now,

and yoga wasn't really my thing, and I

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don't, I'm not particularly flexible,

but I remember the, the instructor

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clearly realized that, and so they pulled

me up and gave me a lot of feedback.

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I just really didn't like it,

but I, so I didn't go back.

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Right.

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But everyone says how beneficial

it it was, and I'm sure if I went

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back for the next month, I'm sure

I would've become better at it and

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would've got more comfortable, and

I would've probably enjoyed it.

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But now that's just one instance.

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I know for me personally,

execute and I didn't continue.

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I didn't push because

it was hard, you know?

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And I think we've all, we'll, we'll all

place ourself in in situations like that.

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Russell Newton: Absolutely.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Russell Newton: Yeah.

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They tell you it's not about, you

don't have to be flexible to do

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yoga, but I've done enough to know

that you don't have to be, but it's

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not really enjoyable if you're not.

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Elliot Phillips: No,

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Russell Newton: It's very difficult.

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Elliot Phillips: that's right.

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Yeah.

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It, it wasn't too fun.

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For me,

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Russell Newton: So that leads me into one

of a question I wanted to ask early on.

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You were a PE teacher to start with.

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Can you go back a little bit in your

life and share some insights into

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your mindset, maybe what directed

you into education, and I guess this

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was in the UK so your system is quite

a bit different than, than it would

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be in the US as I'm familiar with.

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But tell us a little bit about your

runup into education and how long

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you taught, when you got into it,

and just some background there.

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Elliot Phillips: yeah, sure.

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Russell.

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So I think it was just ingrained

in me my, my mom's dad.

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He was a French teacher and

taught at international schools in

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the, firstly in the uk and then.

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Internationally, and my mom's a teacher.

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She, she actually retired in the

summer, but she just loves it so much.

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She is, she's gone back and she

was well overdue retirement And

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I think a lot of teachers are

like that, and she just loves it.

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so I think it was just kind of ingrained

and I was so into sport and I think

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every kid's got that, that dream of

becoming a professional sports player.

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Right.

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And so for me it was, it was football

or soccer as you'd say in the states.

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And so.

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You know, I ultimately, you know,

everyone, every kid like said, gets

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their heart broken when they realize

the dream isn't gonna come true.

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so I'd realized that.

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So it was more along the lines of,

well, could I do that involves sport?

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So for me and PE teaching and teaching

anything related to sport was the,

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the natural kind of path, I think.

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And plus we said, my mom.

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Her dad was teacher, so it was just

kind of in the blood in the family,

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I, I remember I went to, after I left

school, did the Sports Performance

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Diploma and then a Bachelor of

Science in Sports performance as well.

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That then led me into to teaching

and also building a extracurricular

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sports company as well.

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At the time, my wife,

we moved to London and.

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Had a couple more years

there from:

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And then at that point it was,

you know, I just wanted to

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travel, I think at that point.

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And teachers don't get paid a lot

as you as, as you know, you said you

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were teaching in a private school.

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It was, how could I do more?

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And I think I was just

thinking very entrepreneurial.

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I was trying to build all sorts

of businesses in the school staff

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room, selling electronic goods.

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Clothing companies,

nutrition stores online.

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And yeah, I was doing it in the

school staff room on, on on some

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days building all these businesses.

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so I just went into personal training

whilst I kind of got my I guess bearings

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together, what I really wanted to do.

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And then I, you know, I met quite

a few people, some good mentors.

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In London, being in a big city to, to

kind of, you know, they put their arm

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around me and, and help guide me, I think,

and I'm still really appreciative that I

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still meet up with a lot, a lot of them

not as clients anymore, as, as friends.

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I remember one, it was Christmas

20 16, 1 of the, one of the

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clients had, he gave me this book.

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And he says, I think you should spend

the Christmas break reading this.

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I think it's gonna, I

think it's gonna help you.

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And this was a super successful

guy, one of top entrepreneurs

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actually in the, in, in the uk.

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And he he gave me this book

and I read it over Christmas.

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I was like, wow, there's people

running like this online.

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I'm here doing it in person.

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So I ended up hiring a mentor,

a coach from, from this book.

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I didn't know if it was true

at the time, I'll be honest.

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I was reading all these kind of

case studies and stories of people

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achieving these amazing results

in their life and their business.

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I remember reading it thinking, surely

these guys can't, can't be producing

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these type of results and this type of

revenue inside of their businesses online.

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I'll give it a go.

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I'll give, give them, I'll book in for

a call and I'll, I'll see what happens.

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I remember then I jumped on the call

with someone just after Christmas

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and I enrolled into this Mentorship

Pro program and just having a mentor

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at that particular point that I'd

invested into myself, I think was just

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And business went pretty well like that.

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But I was still, you know, I was

actually still doing it in person.

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I hadn't leveraged online at that point,

and, but it just opened my eyes into like

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what was possible in, in terms of business

with the right strategies, with the, with

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the right mentorship, right coaching.

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And, you know, I had, I had a few

different mentors since then, and I

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just remember if I could pinpoint how

well the teacher project's done now.

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It would go back to that 2016

CRI Christmas just being handed

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a book that unlocked everything.

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I, I really think that, you know,

just opened, it, opened my eyes to

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take the leap and into myself and,

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you know, expand my goals, I think.

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'cause I could see other people

doing things that I wanted to do.

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Russell Newton: So even when

you first began teaching, you

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were very entrepreneurial.

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You're, you're running a

business through to your fellow

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teachers and other people while.

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You were learning how to teach.

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That had to be a pretty difficult time.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Well, I think the funniest one is I, I

was, when I was nine years old, and this

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would be like the, or 10, 10 years old.

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This would be like the sixth

grade or fifth grade or something.

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I remember I spotted this guy.

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I.

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Or, or this, this young lad who was in

the class with me, and he was really good

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at drawing the South Park characters like

Kaman, Kenny, I, what was the other guys?

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Stan, Kyle, Jeff, all these guys.

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But we were all into, when we were

like nine years old, and I spotted that

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he was really good at drawing them.

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So I, I paid him some money.

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I can't remember how much it was.

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It was probably about five pence.

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10 pence.

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him to draw 'em for me.

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Then I would stencil them.

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them in and sell them for about a pound

in in, in year five around the class.

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I think that was, that's my favorite

entrepreneurial kind of, kind of venture.

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Russell Newton: It goes way back.

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I find it interesting, and I think you've

said this and I might've missed it.

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I don't want to assume that

I, that I heard it correctly

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while you were teaching.

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You said you were, you were meeting

this successful businessman.

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I found it very difficult

during my tenure as a teacher.

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And also very intimidating to meet

people outside other than the parents.

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And I, I, I tell you, I did meet

several parents during my 10 or 15

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years that had impact on my life

because they were businessmen.

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They were successful in the

community, or people worthy of

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being, you know, a role model.

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But you made it sound like you had

interactions with a lot of people.

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How did, did all that all come

about through some of your side

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hustles, for lack of a better word?

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Elliot Phillips: well, what, what I

was saying was I went into personal

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training 'cause it was a, a natural

kind of progression from, you

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Elliot Phillips: into

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Russell Newton: I'm

sorry I missed that part.

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Elliot Phillips: fitness at the time.

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So when I left teaching in 2015, I.

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So I could kind of figure out, I was going

to the gym a lot at that point as well.

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I also had a, I'd done a personal

training qualification part-time

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at the weekends through, and I had

the degree in sports performance.

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of pretty well versed in anyway.

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decision that enabled me to meet

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I dunno if it would've been

possible in city or town.

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was very fortunate to be somewhere like

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a couple of referrals and you could be

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meeting some very, very successful people.

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beauty of living in a.

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a, you know, these big, these

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Russell Newton: Right.

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Elliot Phillips: online these days.

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And going back to the, coaching

programs that I was saying

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before, just getting around other

people who are wanting to grow.

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so, yeah, that was definitely a big

stepping stone is, is that personal

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training opened up a lot of doors.

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but just to connect with people.

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Russell Newton: And that takes

effort for an individual who.

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Our listeners are young professionals

you know, trying to move up in a

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company so you're, you're dealing with

things on every day and going home.

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Probably have family responsibilities

and financial responsibilities,

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and rather than binging Netflix

or whatever the current temptation

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might be, it takes getting outta that

comfort level to go out and, and.

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yourself by meeting more people and

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spending time with higher performers.

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Elliot Phillips: Absolutely.

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Well, well, people can do

that online these days, right?

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There's so many communities where they

can listen to this podcast, for example,

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and if there's some sort of community

attached to it or, or somewhere the.

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They can connect with the,

the other listeners, you know,

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that would, that would be huge.

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'cause they're the people

who are clearly serious and.

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Prioritize listening to,

to similar things, right?

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So there's definitely gonna be

some connection now, or even, even

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you have these groups, I think,

don't you want, is it meetup.com

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something?

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Things like that.

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And instead of going to the, the pub

like we have in UK or the, the Brew

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pub or whatever, in the, in the states

could be going to like a meetup or

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something, and there'll be individuals

there who, and it might not be, it could

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just be the one conversation you have.

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That creates a connection, that creates

a referral that links you somewhere.

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And I think it is a lot about still

as well who you know to, and that

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only happens from moving or trying

to move in in the right circles.

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Russell Newton: Did you hear me?

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I said meet up

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Russell Newton: in the

20 minutes, 30 minutes.

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We've been talking.

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I'm already trying to adopt the, the

the accent meetup for us for the Yanks

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that are listening, which are the

majority of our listeners, I believe.

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You mentioned your book.

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Titled teaching on your Own Terms,

but we didn't talk too much about it.

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Can you go into that a little bit?

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Tell us what we might

expect from that book?

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What an average if there, if the

person is not a teacher, is it

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something they should pursue or is it

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Elliot Phillips: I think it's

applicable to any business

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Russell Newton: great?

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Elliot Phillips: any, any route

that people are looking to take,

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particularly the start of the, the book.

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I call it the Five to Thrive.

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And this was a routine I

actually took from teaching.

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And so it was more of a

mental performance routine.

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And so the first chapter is about this

five to thrive routine that I used to

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adopt and just set myself up for the day.

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And it would be little things like

gratitude practices just mental

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rehearsals, also then physical

performance as well, getting my

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body ready for the day you know,

nutrition, how I was fueling the body.

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As well to, you know, not just to to

look good, but to feel good and to

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have the energy to be able to do more.

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And so I think, you know, a lot of that

came from being into fitness, being

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into sport, being a PE teacher, and, and

having the sports performance degree.

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But then a lot of it is also the data

tracking and habit tracking that I

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would talk about in that routine to, to

manage what I was doing, you know, with

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my routines and trying to be a hype.

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By performer.

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And so whilst perhaps I wasn't

where I wanted to be back then, I,

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you know, definitely still not now.

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It's those little habits and routines

that I think create a foundation

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where you don't doubt yourself and

you can always think positively

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about, you're always moving forwards.

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And so, so that was something that

was, think in inside of the book

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is, is great for anybody, you know,

it's just how you start your day

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and I'm a big believer of that.

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And a, a lot of people.

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Out there and all of these, you know,

successful entrepreneurs and coaches

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and people perhaps we will look up

to, they all preach that as well.

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And so, know, that was something

that served me really well.

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And then the rest of the

book is really about, I.

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I wrote it in 2023.

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So it's a couple years now.

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And so, but at that point we'd

been doing this three years.

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I think we'd worked with this five,

a couple of thousand teachers or

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something like that at that point.

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So we'd seen a lot.

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And so it was really writing around

like everything that we'd seen work

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in or in the businesses of our clients

and how they could attract clients.

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And so I was just sharing that around.

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You know, how we helped our clients

get results, enrolled students deliver

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an amazing experience for their

clients in, in that case, students.

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they were the same principles that

I used in my own business when I

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was doing personal training, and

I simply just took that into the

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online tutoring space as well.

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And so they're applicable for everything.

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You know, see, I, I think people

will get some stuff out of it.

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Absolutely.

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Russell Newton: tell us a little bit

more about the teacher project itself.

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How did this come about?

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Did you, were you still in teaching

when you started doing this?

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Were you out of teaching?

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Had you written the book already?

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I'm not

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah,

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Russell Newton: perfectly clear on the

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Elliot Phillips: sure.

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Russell Newton: timeline.

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Elliot Phillips: so this was 2017.

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I hired a coach to help me take the

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Russell Newton: I.

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Elliot Phillips: training online, right?

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And I took that online.

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I tried previously to take it online and.

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I hadn't been able to and it was

because I was trying to figure

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everything out on my own right.

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How to run the online business i'd,

I'd hired a mentor previously, as I'd

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explained from reading that initial

book, who'd helped me develop it in

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person that was growing very nicely.

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I wanted to transition it online,

and I tried and failed multiple

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times for about nine months.

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I then ended up hiring another coach

here's why you've been failing.

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You've been trying to target everybody.

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Who are you really passionate

about helping with this?

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Who do you really wanna help and serve?

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teachers, and I said, serve the teachers.

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And so initially it was called Teacher

Fit project and I was helping teachers

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in the schools their productivity, their

energy, how they were just showing up

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and looking after their own physical and

mental wellbeing so they could show up

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better for their students and improve

their, their work-life balance and, and

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about, this was probably March, 2019.

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I was at a conference in San Francisco

and someone said to me, I, I was

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saying a lot of teachers just can't

afford buy my coaching program online.

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And I said, it makes sense because

if I was a teacher, I wouldn't have

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been able to in invest what I was

charging for the coaching program.

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So they said to me, so you've got

a way, you've gotta find a way to

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help the teachers make more money.

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And so that got me thinking.

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I'm essentially teaching sport, which

I was teaching in the school online.

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I'm gonna take the maths teachers, the

science teachers, the French teachers,

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what geography, humanities, and help

them teach their students online.

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spent 2019 putting together this,

this program of what I thought was

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going to work and to be honest.

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So I didn't dare launch

it and press, press go.

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So no one's gonna want this.

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And because I'd already tried doing

it for the clientele I did have in

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the teacher fit project, they said,

no, we're not interested in that.

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I thought, oh, I thought you

definitely would be, but they weren't.

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And so they obviously were just

interested in the fitness side

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and, and what they'd signed up for.

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And so this wasn't appealing to them.

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then it was when the pandemic

happened, course all the schools

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all over the world shut down.

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And because I had already learned how

to get clients in that online business

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before, I'd just take the same principles

and I'll launch this side to the business

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and it was a lot of good timing for sure,

but also I was ready at that time to.

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To do a two and then it's grown

really well since, and, you know,

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we're really proud of the amount

of teachers that we've, able to

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serve and help since, since then.

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So just had our five year

anniversary in March.

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Russell Newton: You are the.

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I said this in a, in a call

yesterday with another podcast guest.

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I said it was the poster child.

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And I don't want to sound, make

that sound like a bad thing in any

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way, but you're a great example of

expanding yourself by surrounding

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yourself with the right people, whether

hiring them or getting them to do

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tasks that you know, you struggle

with or getting advice or delegating.

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So oftentimes.

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I think part of the, a drawback maybe

to the entrepreneur, especially when

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they start to see some success again

in my somewhat personal experience,

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but in seeing others, is that an

entrepreneur has all these ideas

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and they wanna do it all themselves.

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And that's, at some point you

can't scale, you can't do that.

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And it's very difficult for a lot of

people to realize this is a good idea.

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This can happen, but I can't

make it happen, but I can get

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somebody to make it happen for me.

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And it's, it sounds like that

you've done a lot of that.

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And it's a great piece of advice, I think

for anybody struggling with most anything.

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There's someone out there has

an answer for any issue that

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you're facing personally, right.

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Elliot Phillips: Agree.

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I agree.

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Think we're all guilty of it.

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We all think it's quicker, faster if,

if we do it on our own, but you know I.

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Who I think it's Brian.

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Brian Tracy.

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Is it, it might be Brian Tracy

or Jim Collins, who wrote

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the book about Good to Great.

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And it's about getting the right

people on, on board you know.

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You can go far on your own or you

can go fast on your own, but with

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others you'll go far type of thing.

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I can't remember the exact well, but it's

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Russell Newton: No, that's great.

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Elliot Phillips: along those

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Russell Newton: Yeah.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Russell Newton: Are

you familiar with this?

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A bit of a side note, are you

familiar with the book by outliers?

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By, and I've forgotten

his name, suddenly I.

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He was a, a reporter for the, I

believe, the New York Times and,

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Elliot Phillips: heard of the book,

but I haven't read it so that, so

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that's why, you know, I haven't

immediately snapped and said, Hey,

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Russell Newton: can't, Malcolm Gladwell.

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Elliot Phillips: Okay.

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Okay, cool.

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Russell Newton: Malcolm Gladwell

and Outliers talks about how

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people become hyper successful.

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Uh, it's a fantastic

book as most of his are.

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But one of the biggest elements of success

in, in addition to having the talent and

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the drive and whatever else, you know,

the, the mental abilities and emotional

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support and all those types of things.

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There is in almost every instance,

if not every instance of element of

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luck or happenstance or opportunity

that came along, do you think if it.

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Do you subscribe to, to Malcolm's concept

of there having to be a certain amount of

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luck to reach that level of hyper success?

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Elliot Phillips: I, I agree.

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Like I think you've got, I think you've.

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Everyone has a lucky, a few lucky

strikes, and you'll get so many,

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but one of the things I also said

was I felt I was ready to take it.

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And so a lot of people might have them

they might have had these opportunities,

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but they didn't realize it was an

opportunity because they didn't grasp it.

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so that's just because they

weren't ready at the time.

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You know, like you can't let a

few failures knock you down blame

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and say it's all about just luck.

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You've gotta keep working on yourself

so that when the opportunities do keep

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coming, at one point you'll, you'll be

ready to, to snatch it and grasp it.

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Russell Newton: Very good, very good.

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Yeah.

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Just because you missed one doesn't

mean you have to miss another.

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There will be another most

likely in at some level.

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That's very good.

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Lemme just look at, I have a few

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Elliot Phillips: gonna

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Russell Newton: pat questions that I,

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Elliot Phillips: Gladwell book down.

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I've been told it a few

times now, the outliers.

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So I'll I'll make sure to, to grab a copy.

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Normally that's what

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Russell Newton: yeah.

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Elliot Phillips: It multiple times and

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Russell Newton: I've never been

disappointed in any of his material,

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including his podcast, which,

if it's, to be honest, I don't

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know if it's still in production.

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I haven't haven't listened to it for

a while, but some fascinating studies.

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That he delves into.

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Along those lines, you have a

book, you have your website.

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Do you have a, a YouTube channel

where this information or some

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related information is available?

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Do you do a podcast?

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Do you have other

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Elliot Phillips: we

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Russell Newton: forms of social media

our listeners should be aware of?

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I.

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Elliot Phillips: main channel that

we're, we're really trying to focus

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on for our organic presence and

branding at the moment is, is YouTube.

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It's just Elliot Phillips.

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Russell Newton: Okay.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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Russell Newton: Elliot Phillips.

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So listers, you wanna look there

for further information as well?

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Elliot Phillips: But yeah, the book

I just finished reading this morning

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was one by Jocko Willink around

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Russell Newton: Mm-hmm.

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Elliot Phillips: leadership,

and found that really good.

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The Navy Seal guy.

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So his extreme ownership one.

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This was a good few years ago now.

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And someone recommended me.

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I saw it at an event I went to,

someone said it in the presentation

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that they, they get all of their

leaders in the team, or who becomes a

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leader, send them out this, this book.

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And I thought, oh, I only, I'd only

picked up his extreme ownership.

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I didn't know he had any other ones.

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And so I just finished that this

morning and it was good read.

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I enjoyed it.

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And just, we were talking about

how some of the principles in

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my book were transferable to.

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Other industries.

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And same for him.

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He was obviously explaining how the

same principles that he took in the,

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the Navy Seals order to lead the lead,

the teams and the platoons that he

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was, he was in charge of, you know,

he applied them into business as well.

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And so a lot of good frameworks

in there for, for leading teams

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or just being a better leader.

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Even if it's just for

your family, you know?

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And so there was a lot of all around

communication and yeah, it was

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a really good, pretty good book.

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Russell Newton: You know, we've,

we don't normally cover so, or,

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or refer to so many publications.

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In my conversations, and this is, this

is great because we've listed so many

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that our listeners I expect know of, but

probably as you did with Jocko's book,

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maybe didn't take advantage of it right

away or didn't realize there was more.

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We've listed five or six.

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And one of my pat questions when

I run out of other information

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is to find out what books have had

the biggest impact on a person.

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Maybe, maybe in two ways.

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What's on your bookshelf now that you've

just finished or trying to get to, but

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in the grand scheme of things over the

last, you know, over your adult life,

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are there any of the books we haven't

talked about that you think you'd like

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to mention and suggest for our listeners?

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Elliot Phillips: One of the, the main

ones that we actually send out to our

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clients when they when they enroll into

our teacher coaching program is the,

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the one thing by Gary Keller, and we

send that out because I feel that I.

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A lot of people just don't get out

of their in, in a play, just don't

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get out of their own way, and they

don't move forwards is because they're

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trying to focus on too many things.

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You brought this up at the start when

you're talking about entrepreneurs.

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Entrepreneurs trying to do so much, and

Gary Keller breaks it down really well.

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And I remember when I read

this book, I use a lot of this.

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This was back in when I

was teaching, 20 15, 20 16.

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It might have been just after

I finished teaching:

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But.

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Still implement a lot of the principles,

and it's just really making sure that you.

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You, you've probably heard

the saying, less is more.

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Right?

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And just focusing on one thing each and

every single day, clearing your schedule

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and moving the needle forwards like that.

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So you avoid that kind of analysis,

pro paralysis type of thing.

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And we've just found that to be so

effective and we'll give it to our,

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our clients, the teachers, and it

really helps 'em prioritize building

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the business whilst they're still

in the classroom, for example.

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So if, if the listeners here have got.

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Projects that they want to work on, but

they're, they're working their businesses

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or whatever it is they're looking to try.

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And it might not just be a project,

it could be family things it is

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you are, you're aspiring to do.

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I found that book was huge.

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It's just making sure you can get out of

your own way, simplify things, and even

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just get 1% better every single day.

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And that, that's what it's about.

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One, one Thing by Gary Keller.

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Russell Newton: It's a

great recommendation.

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That's not one that's come up in

my conversations before and I'm

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not familiar with the book, so it's

something I certainly need to, to

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look for and take advantage of.

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Thank you for that.

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Along those lines, you, you talked

about your parents being teachers.

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Obviously your parents have a big

impact on everybody for good or bad.

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Maybe good in some

areas and bad in others.

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I don't.

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What other people you, you talked

about a mentor that you had are, is

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there anyone else that's had a big

impact on your life, maybe that came

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along at the most difficult time and

pointed you in the right direction

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or gave you that one piece of advice

that you needed at that point in time?

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I.

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Elliot Phillips: I say my wife, actually,

I got married pretty young at 23, and

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I think at that particular

time, you know, I.

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I was going out with, know, a group

of friends, but every week it'd

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be going out and doing, you know,

like as, as young guys do, and

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they still do it to this stand.

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I think Greg, have they not grown

up these, these guys and I'll,

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I've fought that for obviously, you

know, best part of a decade now.

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That, you know, they're 40

years old, whatever, and they're

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still doing the same thing.

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So we were, when we were early twenties,

and so had I not found my wife at

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that particular point in time, maybe I

wouldn't have gone on that trajectory.

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It, it was her, she was the

reason why I moved to London.

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If I didn't meet her, would I have ever

moved to London and would that have ever

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have even opened up all of those doors?

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I dunno.

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know?

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And so that was a real key, key moment.

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I think

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Russell Newton: You mentioned London

before, and I meant to say it.

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I grew up in Chicago moved away

as soon as I graduated college.

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I moved down to Atlanta.

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I've been to London once, been to New

York once, spent a good time, a good bit

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of time in Chicago, in the city itself.

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But it really is something different

just in the week that I was in London, so

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amazingly different from, it reminded me

more of Toronto really than anywhere else.

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Elliot Phillips: We just brought

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Russell Newton: really

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Elliot Phillips: member

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Russell Newton: just.

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Elliot Phillips: and he was in Toronto

and we were speaking about London.

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He's actually German, but he'd been

living in Toronto a fair few years, and

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he said, you know, yeah, know Toronto.

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I'm in Toronto.

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I said, what's it like?

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Then he goes, do you know London?

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yeah.

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He like, yeah, just like Linda.

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Russell Newton: I wouldn't say just like,

but they remind me of each other more than

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in, than the American cities I've been to.

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But the opportunities presented in a

situation like that really quite amazing.

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London is and, and is, I.

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Astonishing.

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And part of it is cultural.

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You know, anything in the United States

that's over 150 years old is ancient.

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Elliot Phillips: Hmm.

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Russell Newton: And then you get

to London and it's like, well, the

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new buses are a hundred years old.

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I, you know, I, I say that

facetiously, and it, it's not meant

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in a, as a, as an insult in any way.

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London is very impressive.

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And the things you can see and do

and learn there I I just really, it

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was almost unimaginable for me as a.

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As a US citizen seeing some of the things,

there is a fantastic place to visit.

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Elliot Phillips: Is funny you

said it 'cause we always wonder

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that, we'll, we'll, we'll

visit London frequently still.

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We, we've moved an hour outside.

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love it so much and we'll,

we'll go back, you know, and I.

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I'll speak to my dad about it and

we'll say, well, I wonder what like

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the, because we really love coming to

the American cities as well, right?

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We love coming to America

and we love the New York.

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Just being in Denver was, was fantastic.

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And you know, all, all of the cities

there, I think they, they just feel,

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they feel bigger than the UK cities.

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I really love that.

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I feel the energy, but we

feel that in London too.

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And I think that's the only

city in the UK that has that.

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feel.

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And so we'll always end up saying,

I wonder what, 'cause we love

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coming to the American cities much.

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What do the Americans think

about when they come to London?

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How do they perceive it?

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And that'll always be something

we'll, we'll bring up in our

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conversations when we're there.

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Russell Newton: Yeah, the American

cities, I've, I've had the

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opportunity to travel some with

business and, and personally as well.

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And I love the fee.

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Each city has their own kind of

vibe, kind of, you know, feel Denver.

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I.

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La, you know, Vegas, all, all

have their own personality to it.

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And not to take away from any of those

because everyone, everyone is unique and

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everyone has something, every city has

something to bring to it that a visitor.

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Have you been to Hawaii, Honolulu?

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Not Honolulu, but Hawaii

in general, to me is,

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Elliot Phillips: been there.

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Russell Newton: is one of the

most this is going way back, but

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first time we landed in Hawaii.

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You're talking about a, a feel that no

one that you don't get anywhere else.

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I've never seen anywhere else.

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You land in Hawaii, you're walking through

the airport, there's a roof, but no walls.

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So the entire airport my

memory, the entire airport

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is just open to the weather.

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Of course, the weather is perfect.

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That's the most, the most unusual

feeling that I've come across.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah,

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That sounds great.

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Russell Newton: We had some, I worked

for a large cement company who that

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is no longer well, has been absorbed

by an even larger cement company.

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It was actually based in uk.

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And we had

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some visitors come over from

the UK from Malaysia for a

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seminar that we were putting on.

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And it was funny because

some of the guys from the UK

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thought, and we were in Atlanta.

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And they said, you know, when we get

done this afternoon, we would finish

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up at four or five with our meetings.

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He said, when we get done this

afternoon, I was wondering if we

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could, we could head on up to New York

City or, or something thinking it was

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you know, we could make that in an

hour, an hour or two drive, spend an

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hour or two in New York Drive back.

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It's like, well, we could, it's about a.

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Nine to 11 hour drive.

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I said, what do you mean?

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Just the scale, the size of

things really threw off some

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of our European visitors from

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Elliot Phillips: The

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Russell Newton: what, what

they were used to in there.

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Elliot Phillips: same on the maps

when, when we're in the states, because

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in the UK or look what's the same

distance on the map is so much smaller.

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You think, ah, that's a 10 minute

walk or something like that.

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That's, that's doable.

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We'll do the same.

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I, I don't do anymore.

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'cause we've got used to

it after all these years.

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But initially it was like, oh,

it's just around the corner.

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Then you actually punch the, the thing in

to make sure you're not going wrong and

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you the location and get the direction.

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It comes up 40 minutes and

it's, it's like, wow, okay.

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:

Uber.

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Russell Newton: More than I bargained for.

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Elliot Phillips: Yeah.

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But,

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Russell Newton: Well.

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Elliot Phillips: that's great.

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You said about Hawaii, I call

them impact cities or places.

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These type of places that just

the energy and the, the vibe just.

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you get to another level.

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London's one for me, New

York and Rio in Brazil.

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But the free,

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Russell Newton: Hmm.

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Elliot Phillips: free impact cities

that where you get there and it's

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just the environment, the energy of

the place and, and how things happen.

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Take you to the, the next level.

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Russell Newton: Great, great Rio.

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We're getting close to the hour.

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Elliot Phillips: I.

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Russell Newton: so I want to have a

final few questions that I always put

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out there for the users, and I want

our, our listeners, and I want to have

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plenty of time for you to elaborate.

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But no pressure for you to continue

on for seven minutes if you don't have

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Elliot Phillips: No

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Russell Newton: the, the desire to do so.

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Elliot Phillips: I got.

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Russell Newton: But my last two

questions, I'll give them both to

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you and then just let you run with

them in whatever way you want.

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What are some of the indisposable

habits that you have?

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if there's something I missed, if

there's a point of information that I

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missed that you'd like to, to tag on

the end or a closing piece of advice,

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a final recommendation you might

make for something for our listeners.

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Can you combine all those points into

a, a few paragraphs and I think when

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you get through that we'll be pretty

much on the target for time-wise.

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Elliot Phillips: So in terms of the, the

mantras, I normally adapt it each year to

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see if there's anything I can add into it.

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The, the general framework stays the

same, but just how can I enhance it?

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So, so this year, normally

the first thing is always.

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Silence for me with AirPods in

just to really get grounded.

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And so I always listen to Han and Zimmer's

inception song from the soundtrack time.

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It's the first thing I

listen to every single day.

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And you know, when you load up your, your

phone and it says most listen to songs or

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whatever on Apple been top for, for years.

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And so I listen to that every

single day about fail silence.

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And this year what I've done is I'm

using a red light therapy panel.

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I'm doing the, the silence in, in

front of the red light therapy to

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help with recovery you know, and

just improve overall wellbeing.

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And so I'm, I'm using that.

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And then from there, it's, I'm

writing 3D three things down every

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day without fail in my journal.

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Three things.

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I'm grateful for writing the one

thing down that I'm gonna do today.

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Sometimes I'll do it the night before but.

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If I haven't, I, after I wrote the three

things, it'll be that one thing from Gary

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Keller, so I'll, I'll implement that.

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then really from there, it's daily

stoic, read the, the latest day in

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the, the daily stoic and, and then

it's straight downstairs to read.

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And so that'll be the next thing is study.

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And so you asked as well, what

would be one thing, advice.

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As well for the, the listeners.

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I was just gonna say, it'd be invest

into learning and don't stop trying

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to learn and improve yourself.

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And so that first 30 minutes study for

me never gets missed in, in the day.

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So to read for other people.

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It doesn't have to be reading, right?

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It could be listening to an audiobook.

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It could be.

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Watching a YouTube video or listening

to the podcast could be anything like

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that, could be listening to this.

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I like to read and so I just

make sure I've got that study

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in there, that self-improvement.

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So that'd be the one thing

is like, don't ignore that.

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Like, work on you first.

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Yeah.

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So, so that would be that.

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And then from there it's the,

like I said, the exercise.

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And so for example.

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Today.

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I didn't exercise how I would normally

exercise 'cause just feel inside

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of my, my body felt really tired.

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We'd, we'd been away for two

weeks in Denver for our event.

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So I hadn't had my usual routine and

so mon, this Monday was the first

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day I got back into it, and so my

body was feeling a little bit sore

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after Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday.

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so I just went for a walk today and

then went to the pool and did a swim.

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And so that wouldn't be

usually what I would do.

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But it's still the principle

of doing something physically

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to, to, to set yourself up.

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So that's kind of the, the morning

mantra or whatever that, that I have.

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You know, and so, so

yeah, that's foundation.

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The, the solid routine being able to

keep going even when things aren't going

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well, is just relying on that to, to

get yourself in the right frame of mind.

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Russell Newton: That's great.

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It, it astounds me as I go through

more and more in conversations and

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interviews how things repeat themselves

and the, the process of what successful

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people do on a regular basis.

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And I.

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The, the, the discipline that

they bring to it, but the actual,

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the actual things they're doing,

the mindfulness, the practices.

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You do, I hadn't heard

of Red light therapy.

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I'll have to look at that.

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And many other things there that are

great pieces of advice for our listeners.

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So listeners, this was Elliot Phillips

author, entrepreneur, businessman,

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coach, PE teacher husband, father.

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Did we cover that?

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Elliot Phillips: free.

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Yep.

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Russell Newton: Father of three.

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Thank you so much for your time.

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I learned a lot.

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I enjoyed this immensely.

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I hope you have great success with

your, your book and the teacher project.

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And thank you for the work you're

doing for the teachers that so

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oftentimes they go unrecognized

and they don't have resources.

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So I think you're providing a great

service to a well deserving audience.

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Listeners, this was the Science

of Self, Elliot Phillips.

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Don't forget to check him out on YouTube

as well as is it the teacher project.com.

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Elliot Phillips: Io.

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Russell Newton: Dot I thank

you very much and listeners,

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we'll see you again next week.

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Thanks for joining us today.

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